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domuk
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:50 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Hi all,

1) If I design a PHP site that serves up html headers, main body's and footers, will Goggles Web Crawler be able to pick up on the links within each page (if the main index.php page only, was submitted to the Google page submission facility)?


2) If i have a link in a flash movie will they be picked up by Goggles Web Crawler?
eg:
Code:
on (release) {
   getURL("http://www.example.co.uk/eg.php", "_self");
}



3) If i have a link within a html document (not a text link but a image link) will they be picked up by Goggles Web Crawler?

Code:
<a href="html/example.html" target="_self" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('blar','','images/eg.gif',1)" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()">
                   
<img src="images/eg.1.gif" alt="blar" name="blar" width="120" height="20" border="0"></a><font size="2" face="Arial">



Thanks,

Dominic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:15 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) I doubt it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:06 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your speedy response.

Is there a way to "fudge" 2 and 3 apart from using a frame structure and adding "no frames content" ?

I suspect i will have to put a text menu at the bottom of each served up PHP page.....

One more question:

4) What are Portals affiliate programs functions?

Thanks again,

Dom.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:03 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Daniel wrote:
3) I doubt it.


I don't see any reason why it wouldn't follow a link if you used an image instead of text.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:08 am (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Yes but I doubt it will follow this:

Code:
MM_swapImage('blar','','images/eg.gif',1

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:55 am (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

It's (not my own code) its Dream weaver's image swap restore javascript functions.

Does Google ignore any links that have javascript in them?
Is there any image swap code that Google would follow?



This is a valid Google link
Code:
<a href="http://www.google.co.uk" target="_blank">

dominic

</a>





This is the dream weaver code
Code:
<a href="http://www.google.co.uk" target="_blank"

onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('blar','','images/eg.gif',1)"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()">
                   
<img src="images/eg.1.gif" alt="blar" name="blar" width="120" height="20" border="0">

</a>


Does Google not just follow the <a href="http://www.google"***********>***</a>

eg. anything that starts with:

<a href="***">

and finishes with:

</a>

I appreciate that the only people that will know this for a fact are the people at Google, but perhaps someone may have noticed the way that Google crawls through their website.

Thanks,

Dominic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:47 am (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Google should just ignore the swap image code and still follow the link as normal, as far as I know.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:13 am (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Sorry, I misread your first post and thought you were asking about the image and not the link.

As far as I know Google will follow the link, but won't index the image contained in the Javascript.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:27 am (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Thanks you two,

So now the answers to my original questions are

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Possibly / probably.

?

Thanks again,

Dom.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:41 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

I'd say:

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:15 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Daniel wrote:
I'd say:

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.

I agree Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:12 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Can number 2) be fudged, by embeding html / javascript/ php in the actionscript?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:18 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

No, because Google simply doesn't crawl Flash content, but you could put a link in the HTML code:

Code:
<p style="color: #000000"><a href="link">Link</a></p>


Replace 000000 with the page's background colour.

However, be aware that this kind of link is technically against Google's terms and conditions and it may get you kicked out of their database.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:49 pm (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Code:
<p style="display: none;">...</p>

Would be a better solution.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:01 am (12 years, 10 months ago) Reply with QuoteBack to Top

Can you use the "noframes" tag when you are not using frames? Could this be another way of including text and links say on html page a largely made up of flash files?

I have done an introduction sequence in flash, embedded in the index page of a sight and wondered if I could put the text / links that I have included in the flash file into the html document for goggles crawlers to pick up on.

Would Google slap me on the wrists for embedding the same text using a no frames content?

I may have to put a "text only link" on the index page......

Thanks,

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