[Fixed] Ad System Rigged - Really Pathetic

Team Member Joined: 06 Jan 2002 Posts: 2564

I'll get Jayant on it ASAP. He's on MSN, but I'm not sure he's around...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:33 am (21 years, 9 months ago)

1) The script is working fine without any problems.
2) The ad being shown are not the default ones but of Daniel. He has the most posts in the forums. right? The default ad says "4WebHelp.net" and not "4WebHelp"
3) For one post in forum, one gets 5 ads impressions on 4WH.
4) Ads of all the rest who are eligible => have added ad url, description etc in profile, are finished. I can't do much about this. can I?

Team Member Joined: 06 Jan 2002 Posts: 2564

I've removed my ad. Smile

Team Member Joined: 06 Jan 2002 Posts: 2564

Are the impressions finished already? I'm getting the default ad too...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 10:15 am (21 years, 9 months ago)

Daniel wrote:

Are the impressions finished already? I'm getting the default ad too...

As I said in my earlier post:

jayant wrote:

Ads of all the rest who are eligible => have added ad url, description etc in profile, are finished.

You were the only one left Daniel, so when you removed you ad, no one left Sad

So what ratio do we keep, or change the algorithm entirely like using round-robin method where all people get equal number of ads irrespective of the number of their posts and choose from ads of only those people who posted within last XX days.

Team Member Joined: 06 Jan 2002 Posts: 2564

Can you ad some more impressions per post? Like 10 per post (it's 5 now, isn't it)?

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 5:15 pm (21 years, 9 months ago)

Daniel wrote:

Can you ad some more impressions per post? Like 10 per post (it's 5 now, isn't it)?

Set it to 20 from 5. how long will these last, 1-2 weeks max. (and you have also removed your ad Wink

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we need to think of some better algorithm

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 11:06 pm (21 years, 9 months ago)

jayant wrote:

...we need to think of some better algorithm

it's looking a little better now -- i saw two ads for Maple Designs when I came in. Smile

However if you're going to the trouble of redoing the algorithm, then I'd also suggest not having two identical ads showing up simultaneously if there are two different ones that can be shown. Idea

(While I was previewing this post, also just saw two simultaneous ads for 'Unix Scripting,' and then later two simultaneous for 'Fancy Rats.')

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Team Member Joined: 06 Jan 2002 Posts: 2564

I *think* (not sure though), that when you see two ads for the same site, only one ad impression is counted. Jayant will have to confirm though...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:41 pm (21 years, 9 months ago)

Daniel wrote:

I *think* (not sure though), that when you see two ads for the same site, only one ad impression is counted. Jayant will have to confirm though...

Earlier it wasnt but now it is like that.

verto wrote:

However if you're going to the trouble of redoing the algorithm, then I'd also suggest not having two identical ads showing up simultaneously if there are two different ones that can be shown.

There aren't much troubles in redoing the algo. when initially everything is done in a modular way Smile

Change it to like that. If you do see identical ads, buzz me.

just looking by the # of replies to this post I guess this will make into top active topics on 4WH shortly Wink

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:46 pm (21 years, 9 months ago)

just noticed I had the extra "$" $$blockid instead of $blockid, due to which second ad was the default one to be chosen. fixed it.

Though this happened for 2 minutes only. Sorry for those who saw those default ads in that time.

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 8:09 pm (21 years, 9 months ago)

jayant wrote:

...If you do see identical ads, buzz me....

you mean you've fixed that ? Question

the identical ads i mentioned seeing in my post above were over more than a 2-minute period ... but I wouldn't tell you about it again until you've tried to fix it

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 4:16 pm (21 years, 9 months ago)

verto wrote:

you mean you've fixed that ? Question

the identical ads i mentioned seeing in my post above were over more than a 2-minute period ... but I wouldn't tell you about it again until you've tried to fix it

Couldnt really understand what u meant? confused the two posts?
The two minute thing is that when I changed the code to make sure both ads are different, the second ad came was the default one.

As of now no-one should be seeing both ads same. I am confident. but this is only untill your ad impressions(set to 20 per post) are there, else it will be the defaults ads Wink

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:39 pm (21 years, 9 months ago)

jayant, i understand the first part about the 2-minute thing, but am in the dark about the ad impressions.

jayant wrote:

... but this is only untill your ad impressions(set to 20 per post) are there, else it will be the defaults ads Wink

Does this matter at all if you don't have any ads of your own? Can you direct me to a thread about that if the explanation's long? Most of what I know about this site's ad ystem is just from this thread and from observing it in action. Wink

Team Member Joined: 06 Jan 2002 Posts: 2564

This is how the system works:

If you have an ad, it will be displayed x times. To calculate x, take your post count, and multiply it by 20. [Edit: now 400!]

If you have no ad, none will be displayed Smile

If everyone has had their share of ads, a default ad will be displayed.